SFI 2009 Annual Meeting
12.00 UTC on Tuesday 1 December 2009 in channel #sfd-meeting on irc.freenode.net
The main business of the annual meeting was to elect a new board. All people attending the meeting were given the opportunity to vote, with the following individuals elected:
- Terri Molini (7 votes)
- Pockey Lam (7 votes)
- Alexjan Carraturo (7 votes)
- Silvia Aimasso (5 votes)
- Quiliro Ordóñez (8 votes)
- Jan Husar (5 votes)
- JM Bitanga (5 votes)
- Frederic Muller (8 votes)
- Matt Oquist (7 votes)
Robert Schumann stepped down from the board, and Fred Muller was elected to take his place.
(11:54:35 AM) The topic for #sfd-meeting is: next meeting today 12:00 UTC (11:54:46 AM) quiliro: hi rewley (11:56:31 AM) rewley: hi quiliro (11:56:49 AM) axj: hallo to all from Italy (11:57:06 AM) axj: 1pm (11:57:14 AM) masafumi_ohta: hi axj and hello folks I am from Tokyo,Japan. (11:57:26 AM) BLUG_Fred [n=fred@XXX] entered the room. (11:57:38 AM) quiliro: hello axj.... i am from Ecuador (11:58:23 AM) axj: hallo masafumi_ohta, hallo quiliro (11:59:47 AM) jmC8 [n=jmC8@XXX] entered the room. (11:59:54 AM) PockeyLam [n=pockey@XXX] entered the room. PockeyLam popey (12:00:06 PM) rewley: hi jmC8, hi PockeyLam (12:00:16 PM) the_it [n=the_it@XXX] entered the room. (12:00:30 PM) jmC8: hi rewley (12:00:35 PM) jmC8: hi all (12:00:43 PM) masafumi_ohta: hi jmC8 (12:00:46 PM) rewley: hi folks, my name is Robert Schumann and I have been president of SFI for 2009 (12:00:52 PM) PockeyLam: hi everybody (12:01:12 PM) rewley: I'm based in Cambridge UK, which means that I'm currently in the middle of my work day (12:01:19 PM) the_it: hullo everyone (12:01:23 PM) rewley: ...so not necessarily as prepared for this meeting as I should be! (12:01:24 PM) axj: Hi Robert... I'm Alexjan (12:01:41 PM) rejden: Hi (12:01:50 PM) rewley: To be clear, this meeting is open to anyone who is interested - so welcome, and thanks for taking part (12:02:01 PM) the_it: I'm Mark Dumlao, jmC8's friend. He just asked me to tag along. (12:02:25 PM) BLUG_Fred: Hi! I'm Fred, SFI vice president for 2009 and board member for 2 years now (12:02:40 PM) BLUG_Fred: based in Beijing, China (12:02:57 PM) rewley: thanks BLUG_Fred - any other 2009 board members present that would like to introduce themselves? (12:03:09 PM) katzkawai [i=3b9c9ead@XXX] entered the room. (12:03:17 PM) PockeyLam: Hi, I am Pockey from Beijing (China), team leader for Beijing SFD events and www.sfdchina.org, also President of Beijing Linux User Group (12:03:30 PM) chicao [n=chicao@XXX] entered the room. (12:03:36 PM) rejden: Hi again, I'm Jan, board member of SFI for 2009, based in Slovakia and Belgium, I'm taking my responsibilities over infrastructure, partnership and new sponsorships (12:03:51 PM) BLUG_Fred: rejden: well rejden, moquist and maybe philh ... (12:04:28 PM) BLUG_Fred: ooops.. i meant to send that to rewley (12:04:42 PM) rejden: :) (12:05:07 PM) rewley: OK, so the main goal of today's meeting is to appoint a new board, and that'll be the first issue for the meeting: (12:05:13 PM) chicao: hello everybody! (12:05:15 PM) rewley: 1. Appointments to the board (12:05:33 PM) rewley: 2. Brief reporting on SFD 2009 (12:05:42 PM) rewley: 3. Any ideas for the future (12:06:14 PM) rewley: so, to the first order of business: the board (12:06:27 PM) rewley: the bylaws of SFI govern how the board is elected (12:06:38 PM) rewley: bylaws can be viewed at http://softwarefreedomday.org/sfi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Current-Bylaws.pdf (12:06:57 PM) rewley: we have a board consisting of between 5 and 9 individuals (12:07:12 PM) rewley: the particular named roles are President, Vice President, Secretary and Treasurer (12:07:32 PM) rewley: ...plus 1-5 other officers (12:07:39 PM) chonan [n=chonan@XXX] entered the room. (12:07:51 PM) chonan: Hello forks! (12:08:12 PM) rewley: voting is restricted to members of Software Freedom International, and at the moment there are no members beyond the board (12:08:41 PM) rewley: so the way we will elect board members is to have a discussion about candidates, but ultimately it will be a vote by present members of the board (12:09:21 PM) rewley: the members of the 2009 board who are in the chat are: me, BLUG_Fred, moquist and rejden (are any others here?) (12:09:29 PM) jmC8: Hi I'm JM C. Bitanga from the Philippines, SFI board member since 2008 and team leader representative in 2007 (12:09:42 PM) rewley: sorry jmC8 - he's also on the board! :-) (12:09:51 PM) jmC8: np, rewley (12:09:55 PM) jmC8: :-) (12:10:12 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: i think philh should drop in soon... (12:10:16 PM) ***moquist is Matt Oquist from New Hampshire, USA, the "home office" of Software Freedom International. SFI board member since 2004. (12:10:39 PM) BLUG_Fred: YEAH!.. an 'old' member (12:10:48 PM) rewley: we're always looking for new inspiration from team leaders who want to be involved in running the global SFD, and so I believe we have a few candidates present in the room (12:11:11 PM) rewley: I will give a short summary of what is required from board members (and current board members can chip in their views) (12:11:25 PM) rewley: and then I'll ask if anyone has questions about what is involved in being on the board of SFI (12:11:37 PM) rewley: after that I'll ask candidates to introduce themselves with a paragraph of text (12:12:08 PM) rewley: so: being on the board means taking responsibility for making SFD a bigger and better event every year: bigger in terms of teams, better in terms of quality of impact (12:12:34 PM) rewley: that involves coming to meetings like this one every 1-2 weeks throughout the year to coordinate planning, but also performing duties during the year (12:12:48 PM) ***moquist nods along with rewley (12:13:12 PM) rewley: duties range from raising money from sponsors, to managing our website, mailing list and online presence, to delivering schwag to teams in time for SFD (12:13:25 PM) Vidyaratha [n=vidyak@XXX] entered the room. (12:13:41 PM) rewley: plus anything else you can imagine needs to be done, like advertising, liaising with teams, writing reports, etc (12:13:53 PM) quiliro: rewley: what is schwag? (12:14:04 PM) rewley: we require people (a) with drive (b) with some relevant skills and (c) a reliable internet connection! (12:14:10 PM) rewley: schwag = team supplies (12:14:56 PM) rewley: we also require a secretary to manage notes, minutes, meetings, agendas, and potentially also to set up a membership scheme for SFI so that we have more "members" at next year's annual meeting (12:15:02 PM) moquist: SFI is a start-up, in a sense. We all have to try to pick up whatever slack there is. PockeyLam popey (12:15:27 PM) rewley: jmC8, moquist, BLUG_Fred, rejden: anything to add? what tasks of SFI have I missed out? (12:16:08 PM) rewley: note that we don't have to do all the work ourselves: if we can involve volunteers, or perhaps work with a local LUG (the way BLUG_Fred works with Beijing LUG) then we can share the effort (12:16:09 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: quite ok.. it's actually quite some work (more than it seems) (12:16:11 PM) rejden: I think you made it clear, but I would add that some dutties like with the schwag are essential and hard to handle, so I'm glad Fred is taking care of it (12:16:39 PM) rewley: are there any questions from potential candidates about what is required to be on the board? (12:16:53 PM) katzkawai left the room (quit: "Page closed"). (12:16:53 PM) moquist: Delivering schwag involves designing artwork, managing production, managing team registration, managing our limited sales, and managing shipping. BLUG_Fred (with help :) does a stupendous job in this area -- but I wanted to flesh out how much work goes into it. (12:17:10 PM) rejden: huge amount I would say (12:17:17 PM) BLUG_Fred: hey guys... thanks.. enough ;) (12:17:19 PM) ***rewley fully agrees - BLUG_Fred has done a brilliant job (12:17:23 PM) quiliro: how much time do you estimate will be required to put per week if one is on the board? (12:17:51 PM) BLUG_Fred: quiliro: no idea and I think we should put more (12:17:57 PM) moquist: quiliro: it varies, and is much busier around SFD. (12:17:58 PM) BLUG_Fred: quiliro: in fact we under achieve every year (12:17:59 PM) rejden: the closer the date goes the more work (12:18:09 PM) rewley: there's the meeting time (about 1 hour each meeting), and then a variable amount of work. some weeks I've done nothing, but then in setting up the registration system I've spent two consecutive weekends working fulltime (12:18:16 PM) BLUG_Fred: quiliro: really hard to delivery on all our ideas (12:18:20 PM) rejden: so summer and june / may are essential (12:18:43 PM) rewley: the more you can do the better! (12:19:06 PM) rejden: but there is a lot to do even without the dealine, for example improving the website, registration, etc (12:19:08 PM) quiliro: will an average of 5 hours per week suffice? (12:19:31 PM) quiliro: sometimes more (12:19:31 PM) debyNqn [n=deb@XXX] entered the room. (12:19:33 PM) BLUG_Fred: quiliro: depends on your abilities and your duties (12:19:35 PM) moquist: quiliro: probably more than enough if that's taken on average (12:19:46 PM) moquist: quiliro: I'm comfortable saying "yes". (12:19:48 PM) rewley: i think 5 hours per week would be the minimum - but some weeks there may not be that much to do, other weeks there may be a lot more (12:19:58 PM) quiliro: moquist: ok (12:20:10 PM) ***moquist took the "sometimes more" seriously. :) (12:20:11 PM) rewley: any other questions? (12:20:31 PM) debyNqn: hi, i'm Debora from Neuquen, Argentina, sorry i'm late (12:20:38 PM) quiliro: are there any fixed politicies? (12:20:46 PM) rewley: hi debyNqn (12:20:54 PM) quiliro: hi debyNqn (12:20:54 PM) rejden: quiliro: on what precisely? (12:20:57 PM) rewley: what does politicies mean? (12:21:05 PM) rejden: rewley: policies I suppose (12:21:06 PM) Samerazmy: Hello Everybody, This is Samer from Egypt/Africa (12:21:17 PM) moquist: Samerazmy: hello (12:21:25 PM) debyNqn: hello (12:21:26 PM) quiliro: rewley: yes ...sorry (12:21:31 PM) masafumi_ohta: hi (12:21:49 PM) rewley: quiliro: you mean policies on free vs open source, proprietary vs open, that sort of thing? or something else? (12:21:51 PM) quiliro: hello Samerazmy (12:21:53 PM) moquist has changed the topic to: 1. Electing the board (bylaws can be viewed at http://softwarefreedomday.org/sfi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Current-Bylaws.pdf ) (12:22:02 PM) Samerazmy: guys, my colleague Silvia Amaso from FOSSF is trying to connect, but she is having problems (12:22:06 PM) rewley: moquist: thanks (12:22:10 PM) quiliro: rewley: those and any other (12:22:49 PM) moquist: quiliro: the by-laws document will hopefully answer your questions (12:23:00 PM) rewley: we try to be a relatively open, accepting forum. that means we try not to be dogmatic on free vs open, because it excludes people who have more in common than they disagree about (12:23:13 PM) quiliro: Samerazmy: suggest a proxy to her (12:23:34 PM) moquist: rewley: that's a good point. a somewhat-unwritten rule. (12:23:45 PM) Vidyaratha: Hello everybody, this is Vidyaratha from Guyana (12:23:49 PM) Vidyaratha: thanks for all the great work (12:24:00 PM) moquist: Vidyaratha: hi (12:24:09 PM) debyNqn: rewley: openoffice for example is a great begin to get in on free software (12:24:26 PM) debyNqn: hi Vidyaratha! (12:24:31 PM) quiliro: hello Vidyaratha (12:24:49 PM) chicao: hi Vidyaratha (12:24:53 PM) BLUG_Fred: guys, can you stop greeting each others? the meeting is in process (12:24:55 PM) BLUG_Fred: thanks (12:25:02 PM) rewley: quiliro: we accept sponsorship from a variety of sources (open and free), and I suppose that's something on which we have a bit of a policy (12:25:02 PM) masafumi_ohta: hello Vidyaratha (12:25:03 PM) debyNqn: so here in my experience go to free sotware from OO was easy (12:25:27 PM) quiliro: rewley: ok (12:25:28 PM) rewley: we're not allowed to offer "exclusive" sponsorship deals, since that's against our status as a non-profit organisation (12:25:51 PM) rewley: ok, any more questions? otherwise we'll get on to introducing the candidates (12:26:05 PM) PockeyLam: rewley: no more question :) (12:26:11 PM) moquist: rewley: Right -- we have 501(c)(3) status with the Internal Revenue Service in the U.S.A., which means donations to SFI are tax-deductible in the U.S. (12:26:20 PM) debyNqn: this year Sun Microsystems helps of many groups around a world to celebrate sfd (12:26:21 PM) PockeyLam: rewley: for me, i mean (12:26:42 PM) rewley: The first person on my list is Terri Molini, who's from one of our sponsors (Sun) (12:26:50 PM) Samerazmy: All, May be Sun Microsystems helps aroudn the World but not in Africa (12:26:58 PM) rewley: About Terri: Her work is in Media/Press Relations. Connecting the dots and connecting significance of technology to developer audiences. Have spent the last 5+ years promoting open source/open standards and why they are changing the IT landscape. (12:27:03 PM) moquist: This has many benefits for the organization, but it does come with some rules. The non-exclusivity requirement rewley mentioned is one of these. (This was a change from when SFI began, when we had an exclusive deal with Canonical for a while.) (12:27:12 PM) Samerazmy: we needed money to have SFD in African countries and we were not able to get any support (12:27:21 PM) rejden: rewley: Terri for regular board member? (12:27:31 PM) rewley: Terri for regular board member, yes (12:27:44 PM) rejden: I need to start taking some notes now (12:28:03 PM) rewley: she is dynamic and does very similar work to SFI in her day job with Sun, interacting with communities (12:28:09 PM) debyNqn: @samerazmy: here sun and mozilla give me presents as cds, etc but not money (12:28:19 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY [n=Silvia_F@XXX] entered the room. (12:28:26 PM) rewley: she has brought numerous teams from Sun's universities program to be involved in SFD (12:28:30 PM) Samerazmy: @debyNqn, I see (12:28:34 PM) BLUG_Fred: debyNqn, Samerazmy : guys, can you be quiet for a while, someone is talking. Thank you (12:29:07 PM) rewley: We have never before had a sponsor representative on the board, and I think it is something worth trying (12:29:24 PM) rewley: OK, next candidate: Rishabh Rao? (12:29:32 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: it would be nice to have someone from Sun on the board, as we're also cooperating with them here in China (12:29:59 PM) rejden: indeed (12:30:06 PM) rejden: but it would be ORACLE soon (12:30:13 PM) rewley: next candidate: L. Ramkumar? (12:30:58 PM) rewley: in fact, i think going through the list may not be a great idea (12:31:07 PM) rejden: +1 (12:31:17 PM) ***moquist nods (12:31:19 PM) rewley: can any candidates for the board (excluding current board members) make themselves known? (12:31:31 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: well it's a way to know whether they're here or not no? (12:31:57 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: Hi, my name is Silvia Aimasso, and I'd like to know what are the tasks of a board member (12:32:02 PM) quiliro: hi....I am a candidate (12:32:19 PM) moquist: Silvia_FOSSWAY: I'll PM you. (12:32:23 PM) rejden: Silvia_FOSSWAY: we discussed it earlier, you missed it (12:32:29 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: as I'm interested to run for this position (12:32:32 PM) rewley: moquist: thanks for talking to Silvia (12:32:42 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: sorry, I had some trouble with my connection (12:32:43 PM) PockeyLam: Hi rewley and everybody, I am interested to be a board member. I have been the team leader for Beijing SFD events 2007/2008/2009, also manage the sending of schwags since 2008. I am also team leader for sfdchina.org helping to support over 70 SFD teams all over China in 2009. Also the President of Beijing Linux User Group and board member of GNOME.Asia Committee PockeyLam popey (12:32:59 PM) rewley: thanks, PockeyLam (12:33:03 PM) axj: I'm interested to be a member (12:33:38 PM) rewley: tell us a bit about yourself, axj (12:34:04 PM) ***rewley should point out, in connection with Terri Molini, that it's currently 4am where she lives, hence she struggled to make it! (12:34:17 PM) moquist: Silvia_FOSSWAY: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m4c69b129 (12:34:18 PM) axj: Hallo, my name is Alexjan Carraturo from Italy, I'm graduated in "Computer Science" at university of Perugia, and I currently studing for the second level of graduation in "Computer Science" at university of Milan. I'm the administrator of the project "Free Software User Group Italia", and I personally follow the activity of a lot of groups like "Linux User Group" and similar in Italy. Personally I follow the promotion of two important mai (12:34:18 PM) axj: nstream Linux Distribution like Fedora and openSUSE as "Ambassador". From today I am in the official Free Software Foundation Europe felloship, and I follow others internationals group. I have already done a lot of live events to promote FOSS and GNU/Linux. (12:34:55 PM) rewley: thanks, axj (12:35:30 PM) BLUG_Fred: axj: have you ever organized a SFD event? (12:35:41 PM) axj: yes 2008, a 2009 (12:35:48 PM) ***rewley points out that questions for candidates are encouraged by all those present (12:35:49 PM) axj: both in Perugia Italy (12:36:06 PM) axj: more than 500 student a time (12:36:36 PM) rewley: are there any other people present who would like to be considered for the board of SFI? (12:36:55 PM) Samerazmy: yes, Silvia_FOSSWAY (12:36:56 PM) BLUG_Fred: axj: can you point out your team page on SFD website please? (12:37:03 PM) axj: yes (12:37:08 PM) Samerazmy: wants to run for this (12:37:15 PM) quiliro: yes...me (12:37:31 PM) moquist: PockeyLam: could you also paste your team page? Thanks. (12:37:35 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: Thanks Samer (12:37:37 PM) rewley: Samerazmy: great, give us the one paragraph summary of yourself (12:37:58 PM) Samerazmy: that is for Silvia_FOSSWAY (12:37:59 PM) axj: http://softwarefreedomday.org/teams/fsugitalia?highlight=%28teams/%29 (12:38:05 PM) Samerazmy: and she will speak herself now (12:38:09 PM) Samerazmy: Silvia, Please go ahead (12:38:19 PM) BLUG_Fred: axj: thanks (12:38:24 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: Thanks Samer (12:38:38 PM) rewley: Samerazmy: oops, i misread your "wants to run for this" (12:39:01 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: I work as project coordinator at the Free Software and Open source foundation for Africa (12:39:38 PM) rejden: Silvia_FOSSWAY: FOSFA? (12:39:39 PM) PockeyLam: http://sfd.beijinglug.org/indexen.php , http://www.beijinglug.org/en/index.php?option=com_openwiki&Itemid=60&id=groups:sfd08:howto , sfdchina.org (12:39:42 PM) rewley: Silvia_FOSSWAY: how long have you been doing that? where are you based? (12:40:00 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: yes, FOSSFA (12:40:10 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: since March, I'm based in Ghana (12:40:14 PM) PockeyLam: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/teams/asia/china/Beijing?highlight=%28teams/%29 (12:40:49 PM) rewley: Silvia_FOSSWAY: how's the internet connectivity in Ghana - are you able to connect at unusual hours and over weekends to join IRC meetings? (12:41:24 PM) ***rewley adds that SFI board meetings on IRC tend to take place on weekends, to avoid clashes with work commitments (12:41:27 PM) Vidyaratha: Please have a productive meeting, I have to leave, all the best (12:41:29 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: I'll do my best (12:41:30 PM) moquist: PockeyLam: great - thanks! (12:41:37 PM) rewley: thanks Vidyaratha (12:41:37 PM) Vidyaratha left the room. (12:41:52 PM) rewley: any more questions for Silvia_FOSSWAY (12:41:54 PM) rewley: ? (12:42:01 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: connectivity is not something that I can control 100% (12:42:14 PM) ***moquist is looking forward to hearing more from quiliro (12:42:16 PM) rewley: quiliro: would you like to introduce yourself? (12:42:19 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: but I'll do my best to be on line as much as I can (12:42:20 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: This year, I've organised and sponsored, under the framework of FOSSWAY project and in collaboration with Linux Accra Users Group, AITI-KACE and Sierra eRiders Sierra Leon, the celebration of SFD in Ghana and Sierra Leon. For more information, please check the following links: http://fossfa.net/node/73 http://fossfa.net/node/74 (12:43:00 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: Once the election is over, I'd like to raise some issues about organising SFD in Africa (12:43:06 PM) quiliro: thanks rewley (12:43:23 PM) quiliro: http://pastebin.com/f676e4958 (12:43:26 PM) rejden: Silvia_FOSSWAY: put that on next board meeting please (12:43:34 PM) quiliro: that i've done (12:43:42 PM) rewley: Silvia_FOSSWAY: we'd love to hear your ideas: Africa should be able to take great benefits from software freedom (12:44:04 PM) BLUG_Fred: rejden: agreed (12:44:14 PM) quiliro: but more than that...i have been working to integrate government with universities in learning about freedom (12:44:34 PM) quiliro: and how free software can be used to acheive it (12:44:50 PM) quiliro: specially sovereignity (12:44:54 PM) rewley: everyone: quiliro's link has his introduction in it, in both Spanish and English (12:45:30 PM) quiliro: check google for "quiliro" (12:45:30 PM) moquist: quiliro: thanks (12:45:59 PM) quiliro: one more thing....organized event for sfd quito center (12:46:10 PM) rejden: quiliro: thanks, I get the picture, I stay in touch with you on my project in Galapagos, Conservation and Open Source /offtopic (12:46:19 PM) BLUG_Fred: quiliro: hey! you even have an Yeeloong... (12:46:36 PM) quiliro: http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/teams/Ecuador/QuitoCentro (12:46:52 PM) rewley: I have some emailed applications for the board, which I will paste into the meeting (12:47:04 PM) rewley: From A. Mani: (12:47:06 PM) rewley: Basically I am researcher in Mathematics and Logic from Kolkata, India. (12:47:06 PM) rewley: I do some consultancy too. I have been involved in FOSS activities for (12:47:06 PM) rewley: almost a decade. (12:47:06 PM) rewley: I coordinate a local GNU/Linux user group (www.ilug-cal.info) in (12:47:06 PM) rewley: Kolkata, India and am actively involved in the Fedora project (12:47:06 PM) rewley: (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Amani ) and other FOSS groups (12:47:06 PM) rewley: including linuxchix and linuxquestions.org. I am a very independent (12:47:06 PM) rewley: type of person and like to lead from the front. My homepage is at (12:47:06 PM) rewley: http://www.logicamani.co.cc (12:47:06 PM) rewley: I am interested in (12:47:06 PM) rewley: 1. Improving the scope of SFD activities. Basically we should have (12:47:06 PM) rewley: activities at all times of the year. The SF day can be a special day (12:47:06 PM) rewley: for reflecting on our progress as well. (12:47:06 PM) rewley: 2. Improving on SFD activities in India and Asia in particular. (12:47:06 PM) rewley: 3. Possibly setting up the basic infrastructure for organising (12:47:06 PM) rewley: time-bound courses on basics of FOSS and FOSS tools with attractive (12:47:06 PM) rewley: certifications from sfd.org (12:47:06 PM) rewley: 4. CD/ DVD development and production and (12:47:06 PM) rewley: 5. Getting various organisations to collaborate with SFD teams. (12:47:28 PM) ***rewley apologises for spamming the meeting! (12:47:50 PM) rejden: rewley: should the current board introduce them as well later on? (12:48:13 PM) rewley: rejden: yes, in a short while (12:48:16 PM) moquist: quiliro: thanks for the URL (12:48:37 PM) rewley: From Alhassan Aliyu Moh: (more spam coming, sorry): (12:48:40 PM) rewley: I am 31 years old and I am a native of Borgu kingdom (Baruten, Kwara State) Nigeria. I am seeking an opportunity to work with Software Freedom International as a volunteer. My professional experience and my awareness of Free and Open Source Software have led me to want to work for SFI for the progress of SFD. I have a bachelor degree in Computer Science (Result is in View) From Usmanu Danfodiyo University Sokoto Nigeria, CCNA, Diploma in Computer Networking and a Certificate in Data Processing from University of Ilorin Nigeria. Presently Studying BSc. in Information Technology with National Open University. Over the past five years, I have worked with Zarummai Computers as Director of Operation who responsible for the general operation of the Business, team leader for various SFD teams since 2005, Webmaster for Sokoto State Government official website, Team Leader Usnamu Danfodiyo University Network, Digital Library Design and Implementation, now Computer Data Analyst for Sokoto Energy Research Centre Usmanu Danfodiyo University Sokoto. During this period, I have learnt much I learned the values of teamwork and commitment, how to win, how to work hard, how to concentrate and focus on goals, and how to balance my time and priorities. Additional experience in other fields has also reinforces my value. I enjoy creative thinking, enjoy learning, enjoy working, enjoy traveling, able to bear work pressure. In my free time, I often participate in activities such as badminton and jugging. I will love to be on the board of SFI. (12:49:09 PM) The topic for #sfd-meeting is: 1. Electing the board (bylaws can be viewed at http://softwarefreedomday.org/sfi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Current-Bylaws.pdf ) (12:49:34 PM) quiliro: Jan Husar is the only one I could not fin very much info of (12:49:34 PM) rejden: rewley: it will kick you out again, put it in pastebin (12:50:03 PM) rejden: quiliro: you should try google ;) (12:50:17 PM) rejden: quiliro: http://www.linkedin.com/in/janhusar (12:50:56 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: I think we all agree on the advantages that FOSS offers to developing countries but there are many challenges to the adoption of FOSS in Africa. One of them is the lack of advocacy skills (12:50:57 PM) axj: Jan Husar no need of a presentation... (12:51:14 PM) axj: it's a big FOSS supporter (12:51:29 PM) rejden: for more than a decade (12:51:37 PM) rewley: ok, so we have all candidates for the board who have introduced themselves: Terri Molini, Pockey Lam, Alexjan Carraturo, Silvia, quiliro, A. Mani and Alhassan Aliyu Moh (12:51:59 PM) rewley: moquist, jmC8, BLUG_Fred: do you feel you need to add anything about yourselves? (12:52:16 PM) rejden: I wrote something up just a while ago, if needed (12:52:22 PM) rewley: moquist has been a staple of SFI - having been in it from the beginning (2004) and running our financial side of things (12:52:23 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: not really, no. (12:52:26 PM) quiliro: Alhassan Aliyu Moh? (12:52:39 PM) rewley: quiliro: see my last big pasted post, above (12:52:39 PM) ***moquist has been treasurer since 2004. This is not necessary, but moving the office would certainly be...challenging. :) (12:53:07 PM) jmC8: current SFI board profiles can be found here: http://softwarefreedomday.org/sfi#head-770c681740c27b7f8450cceec7e62338d6791bf1 (12:53:17 PM) quiliro: rewley> From Alhassan Aliyu Moh: (more spam coming, sorry): (12:53:17 PM) quiliro: * rewley se ha marchado (Excess Flood) (12:53:34 PM) moquist: quiliro: I'll PM you (12:53:38 PM) rewley: quiliro: sorry, i'll paste it elsewhere (12:53:41 PM) moquist: no I won't. I'll pastebin it. (12:54:16 PM) rejden: Hi again, I'm Jan, current board member since 2009, I joined the board after providing technical consultation regarding infrastructure and online marketing. I organized several SFD events, since 2004 in Slovakia (3 cities), Czech Republic (2 Cities), Belgium (2 Cities). In 2010 I would like to focus on working closer with sponsors and partners, and bring new sponsors and partners, in 2009 I bring REDHAT/FEDORA sponsorship to SFD. I'm also founder of (12:54:23 PM) rewley: Alhassan: http://pastebin.com/d1520eeba (12:54:52 PM) moquist: quiliro (and all): A. Mani's qualifications: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m486091e4 (12:55:21 PM) moquist: rejden: "founder of..." (you got cut off) (12:55:45 PM) rejden: really? it shows here the whole story, damn (12:55:53 PM) Samerazmy: i have to go now, bye (12:56:05 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: Unfortunately I'll have to leave the chat at 1.30pm as I have a previous commitment (12:56:12 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: bye Samer (12:56:18 PM) moquist: er, A. Mani's qualifications that you don't have to download: http://pastebin.com/m486091e4 (12:56:18 PM) rejden: doing pastebin, (12:56:21 PM) rejden: http://pastebin.ca/1696273 (12:56:27 PM) Samerazmy left the room (quit: "CGI:IRC"). (12:56:38 PM) rewley: OK, do we think it will work to have everybody present IM me their favourite candidates from those we've seen? You can message me by typing /msg rewley [your candidates] (12:57:00 PM) rewley: the candidates are: (12:57:18 PM) rewley: NEW: Terri, Pockey, Alexjan, Silvia, Quiliro, A. Mani, Alhassan (12:57:43 PM) rewley: EXISTING: moquist (Matt Oquist), Fred Muller, JM Bitnga, Jan Husar (12:57:50 PM) rewley: JM Bitanga, sorry! (12:58:28 PM) jmC8: :-3 np again (12:58:31 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: philh and thilo are staying no? (12:58:34 PM) quiliro: 9 people (12:58:38 PM) rewley: i will count up the votes and make the results public (12:58:51 PM) quiliro: 4 older (12:58:52 PM) debyNqn: can we all votes? (12:59:06 PM) rewley: thilo was never on the board, philh has said he's happy to stay if required (12:59:20 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: oh. ok thanks (12:59:22 PM) rewley: but since philh is not here, i think we have enough people to take his place (12:59:36 PM) rewley: EVERYONE can vote by messaging me! (12:59:38 PM) quiliro: sorry 11 new 4 old (12:59:47 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: so you need 9 names? (1:00:05 PM) moquist: ranked...? (1:00:12 PM) rewley: you can vote for as many people as you want - one only, if you choose, and up to nine people (1:00:17 PM) rewley: no rankings (1:00:20 PM) quiliro: BLUG_Fred: yes...minimum 5 max 9 (1:00:22 PM) moquist: OK. (1:00:37 PM) masafumi_ohta: I just vote (1:00:41 PM) ***rewley apologises for the confusion - this is a slightly informal process, since ultimately the decision rests with the current board (1:01:07 PM) chicao: Me too (1:01:10 PM) quiliro: i meant boad members not votes and before i mean candidates (1:01:40 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY left the room (quit: "CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)"). (1:01:57 PM) quiliro: sorry again: 7 new 4 old (1:02:00 PM) quiliro: candidates (1:02:22 PM) rewley: i've had two sets of votes so far (1:02:25 PM) quiliro: member of the board: 5 minimum 9 maximum (1:02:32 PM) rewley: thanks, quiliro (1:02:44 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY [n=Silvia_F@XXX] entered the room. (1:03:21 PM) moquist: rewley: in progress here (1:03:38 PM) kongove [n=root@XXX] entered the room. (1:04:35 PM) rewley: i'm going to be tied up counting votes for a while - could i ask someone to lead the second part of the discussion (Fred?): 2. Brief reporting on SFD 2009 (1:05:31 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: still voting.. but sure (1:06:06 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY: sorry, I had some problems with the IRC channel (1:06:54 PM) rewley: welcome back, Silvia_FOSSWAY (1:07:14 PM) BLUG_Fred: SFD 2009 reporting... (1:07:20 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY left the room (quit: Client Quit). (1:07:34 PM) kongove: Is the meeting finished ? (1:07:40 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: not yet (1:07:57 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: thanks (1:07:59 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: vote counting in progress and starting the reporting of 2009 (1:08:23 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2 [n=Silvia_F@XXX] entered the room. (1:08:30 PM) BLUG_Fred: without the exact figures I can still say we had a lot more teams that celebrated SFD this year than last year (1:08:50 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: sorry my connection crashed (1:08:55 PM) rejden: BLUG_Fred: Yes, I did a spreadsheet comparison but can't find it now (1:08:59 PM) rewley: you could try count the number of teams listed on the map (sorry, I didn't use a numbered list!) (1:09:16 PM) rejden: rewley: some teams are twice, even three times there (1:09:21 PM) BLUG_Fred: there are a few things we didn't do such as the media DVD which has been discussed for the past 2 years and upgrading our IT infrastructure due to problems with the hosting provider, timing, compatibility issues etc (1:09:49 PM) BLUG_Fred: we had about 15% more at mid july, that I know (1:10:14 PM) BLUG_Fred: I also know of the extra SUN/SFDChina teams in China (70+) which didn't register at all (1:10:17 PM) quiliro: could there be a general count? not necessarily exact (1:10:27 PM) quiliro: estimate (1:10:27 PM) BLUG_Fred: quiliro: apparently not now (1:10:35 PM) rejden: BLUG_Fred: yes, and also the SUN Open Universities didn't register at all (1:10:35 PM) BLUG_Fred: over 700 (1:10:45 PM) quiliro: wow! (1:11:21 PM) rewley: i have votes from moquist, BLUG_Fred, masafumi_ohta, chicao, rejden, debyNqn, jmC8 (1:11:27 PM) rewley: anyone else want to vote? (1:12:11 PM) BLUG_Fred: we've been missing out on collaboration with Sun due to the transition with the Oracle merger (1:12:13 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: Yes, I'd love to but could you send me the list again (1:12:22 PM) rewley: OK, hold on (1:12:27 PM) moquist: rewley: you shouldn't forget to vote. :) (1:12:50 PM) rejden: BLUG_Fred: yeah, could explain something, but still they have people directly responsible for open source, and you know what I think about this whole issue (1:12:50 PM) rewley: the candidates are: NEW: Terri, Pockey, Alexjan, Silvia, Quiliro, A. Mani, Alhassan EXISTING: moquist (Matt Oquist), Fred Muller, JM Bitnga, Jan Husar (1:12:53 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: sorry, I had an issue with the computer (1:13:32 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: How about those activities? It's really useful for spreading free software? (1:13:44 PM) rewley: Silvia_FOSSWAY2: you can message me your (up to nine) choices by typing /msg rewley [candidates] (1:13:55 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: not on topic. sorry, it's not a chat-with-my-buddy meeting (1:13:58 PM) quiliro: only member vote...right? i' not a current member of the board (1:14:08 PM) ***rewley suggests that this become a free discussion of the past and future of SFD, while I count votes (1:14:19 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: i personally believe so (and so do current board members) else I wouldn't be here (1:14:33 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: ok then... (1:14:42 PM) rewley: EVERYONE can vote - this is the informal vote, in which anyone can participate although we can decide later about the weight given to non-members votes (1:15:06 PM) axj: I think isn't write that I vote for myself (1:15:20 PM) axj: it's unuseful (1:15:22 PM) BLUG_Fred: axj: it's ok (1:15:35 PM) rejden: axj: I voted for myself :P among others of course (1:15:43 PM) rewley: EVERYONE in the room can vote my sending me a message - not just current board members (1:17:27 PM) moquist: axj: It's OK. If you think you're qualified, then you should vote for yourself. (1:17:42 PM) moquist: (among others, of course :) (1:17:45 PM) axj: I've done (1:18:02 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: there are many candidates, but just 9 people will be elected, right? (1:18:09 PM) moquist: Silvia_FOSSWAY2: right (1:18:15 PM) rewley: a maximum of nine will be elected (1:18:24 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: thanks (1:18:38 PM) kongove: I support BLUG_Fred, BLUG organizes many technological activities. So I vote him (1:18:44 PM) kongove: ok? (1:18:48 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: lol.. thanks (1:18:52 PM) rewley: voting is about to close - anyone who hasn't voted, please message me within the next minute! (1:19:02 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: very sweet of you (1:19:40 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: I'll try to take part in your activities later. (1:19:53 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: you live in Beijing? (1:20:17 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: yes, I came to Beijing on july 2009 (1:20:27 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: I think advocacy activities should be put in the to do list (1:21:15 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: I touch Free Software for 3 years. I always hold/take part in those kind of activities. (1:21:16 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: You cannot promote freedom without knowledge as ppl need to know to make an aware choice (1:21:32 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: But I find there are less Chinese in BLUG (1:21:47 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: well we're having a chuan'r night tonight.. i'll be going after this meeting (1:22:01 PM) rewley: OK, voting's closed, I'm just adding up (1:22:01 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: i will go to the chuanr night too :) (1:22:26 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: attendance tends to depend on topics, activities and seasons (1:22:47 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: thanks rewley (1:23:02 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: PockeyLam I think I can join in next time, I have went back to my home now. (1:23:29 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: sure, we have chuanr night every month, sometimes twice a month :) (1:23:42 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: I have registered in BLUG for long time. I can receive the information of those activities. (1:24:05 PM) quiliro: I think we could have all this sinergy in sfd 2009 come closer to all of us by making a sdf.tv (1:24:17 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: nice.. there is also the GNOME Beijing user group as well, which I think has more Chinese attendance and is on Wednesday evenings (once a month) (1:24:24 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: that's a great idea quiliro (1:24:28 PM) quiliro: that could make it easier to organize events in smaller places (1:24:51 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: have you ever heard of Zeuux Community? zeuux.org (1:24:55 PM) quiliro: where there arent many organizers make a great event (1:25:18 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: I think some effort should put in the creation of advocacy materials (1:25:18 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: sure. i know Bill quite well (1:25:25 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: There are also some technological speeches every year. (1:25:36 PM) rewley: sorry about the silence, there's some counting up going on... (1:26:04 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: no problem, we're having a free chat (1:26:27 PM) quiliro: I think it would be cheaper to produce the materials locally depending on volume and give more prizes to make it easier for teams to organize their events as they like better (1:26:38 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: I think BLUG should unite all the Free Software supporters in Beijing. (1:26:54 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: Yes, I do agree, localisation is important (1:26:57 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: that's a huge and difficult task. besides diversity is good (1:27:10 PM) BLUG_Fred: Silvia_FOSSWAY2: localisation is paramount (1:27:29 PM) BLUG_Fred: Silvia_FOSSWAY2: but it's difficult to actually manage and deliver in reality (1:27:35 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: everybody should have their freedom to start their community ;) (1:27:48 PM) quiliro: give out a lemote for every event would cost less than sending materials (1:27:49 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: I'm about to launch a contest for the production of advocacy material as I want to increase the local production (1:27:55 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: we also help other groups to build their communities (1:28:00 PM) kongove: PockeyLam: agree with you. (1:28:12 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: like we are helping universities to start their own FOSS groups inside their colleges (1:28:51 PM) kongove: PockeyLam: I know. We also have a Linux Group, www.xiyoulinux.cn (1:29:27 PM) BLUG_Fred: kongove: oh you're from Xi'an! (1:29:33 PM) quiliro: how do you integrate chinese speaking with other language speaking initiatives? (1:29:45 PM) chicao: Silvia_FOSSWAY2: its a very interesting proposal (1:29:54 PM) quiliro: i am very interested in collaborating with china (1:29:54 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: why doesn't SFI launch contest for the production of advocacy and communication materials? it would be cheap than producing it (1:30:16 PM) masafumi_ohta: quiliro: me too :) (1:30:19 PM) quiliro: remember shipping isssues (1:30:29 PM) kongove: BLUG_Fred: yes, I graduated from Xi'an institute of post and communication. (1:30:48 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: some big organisations might be happy to sponsor the prizes (1:30:50 PM) quiliro: and india too! masafumi_ohta (1:31:05 PM) quiliro: post? kongrove (1:31:14 PM) masafumi_ohta: I am very intereted in chinese OSS activities because it is getting bigger very quickly you know. (1:31:39 PM) quiliro: china is the next big one (1:31:59 PM) masafumi_ohta: quiliro year india too :) (1:32:06 PM) quiliro: and they have initiatives similar to ecuadorian socialist government (1:32:12 PM) kongove: quiliro: yes , YouDIan (1:32:40 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: wow, you must speak good chinese then? ;) (1:32:44 PM) kongove: masafumi_ohta: too many people. (1:33:08 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: I wish I could say the same thing about African governments, just South Africa has done something (1:33:25 PM) quiliro: kongrove: many means more synergy (1:33:52 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: but African people are interested in FOSS (1:33:56 PM) masafumi_ohta: kongove: year I've heard that.some of we japanese are jealous about that :( (1:33:56 PM) masafumi_ohta: he (1:34:13 PM) quiliro: Silvia_FOSSWAY2 south america is in the same situation.....we are closer thanks to freedom and internet (1:34:25 PM) kongove: PockeyLam: I know many students who touch free software in university , but they don't know what they can do when he/she leave school. (1:34:55 PM) quiliro: kongrove: bussiness (1:35:03 PM) quiliro: ;-) (1:35:22 PM) kongove: quiliro: it's good method but also difficult. (1:35:36 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: actually it was a bad time over the last year, a lot of students who have difficulties to find jobs, but i saw quite some students who joined FOSS projects / communities, they did find jobs (1:35:41 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: but in Latin America Brazil, Ecuador, Venezuela and Cuba governments have done signals (1:35:46 PM) chicao: kongove: i agree with you (1:36:21 PM) rewley: OK, we have some results: (1:36:31 PM) quiliro: Silvia_FOSSWAY2: try to make freinds with active members of government (1:36:32 PM) PockeyLam: kongove: it's a general issue, not only for CS students (1:36:33 PM) chicao: kongove: but the goverments have made some efforts to make a political promotion of FOSS (1:36:57 PM) kongove: redflag ? (1:37:04 PM) quiliro: big privative software companies do a lot of lobby and it works for them (1:37:08 PM) rewley: Elected to the board are: Terri Molini, Pockey Lam, Alexjan Carraturo, Silvia, Quiliro, Jan Husar, JM Bitanga, Fred Muller, Matt Oquist (1:37:20 PM) rewley: congratulations to all (1:37:23 PM) rewley: :-) (1:37:29 PM) masafumi_ohta: congrats :) (1:37:31 PM) the_it: quiliro: not only is the average person not "mentally equipped" to start businesses (cough cough employee training / low resources), the typical sysad who studies software by himself is likely even less equipped because of his specialization in "antisocial" behavior. (1:37:39 PM) kongove: chicao: It's just a way to make money for some person ... (1:37:44 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: thanks for counting them! congrats to everybody (1:37:54 PM) kongove: congratulation ---------all (1:37:59 PM) the_it: quiliro: I wonder if something can be done to encourage entrepreneurship among FOSSy people (1:38:07 PM) rewley: i'm now retiring as president - this meeting is my last official event (1:38:09 PM) axj: congratulation to all (1:38:19 PM) quiliro: the_it: practice (1:38:28 PM) rewley: but i would like to nominate Fred for SFI President 2010 (1:38:32 PM) rewley: are there any other nominations? (1:38:37 PM) the_it: congrats :D (1:38:46 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: thank you (1:39:10 PM) quiliro: thank you for choosing us: congratulation to everyone who participated....for me....they are on the board as well (1:39:41 PM) the_it: quiliro: to many people, trial and bankrupt isn't a real option. (1:39:46 PM) rewley: I will send out an email to all those elected about some arrangements, and then it'll be up to all of you to organise future meetings (1:39:58 PM) Silvia_FOSSWAY2: I'll leave shortly (1:40:00 PM) rewley: I expect Secretary and Vice President will be elected at the first meeting of the board (1:40:08 PM) PockeyLam: rewley: thanks (1:40:15 PM) BLUG_Fred: well i hope I'll do at least as much as our previous presidents... (1:40:16 PM) rewley: moquist, of course, is Treasurer :-) (1:40:38 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: i'd be happy also to see you still keep involved more or less. is there any possibility? (1:40:43 PM) rewley: BLUG_Fred: we don't need a speech, you're elected unopposed :-) (1:40:52 PM) jmC8: you can do it Fred, you've already proven yourself ;-) (1:41:00 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: great! i feel relieved (1:41:03 PM) rewley: yep, i think there will be quite a few things i'll need to offer help in (1:41:03 PM) PockeyLam: BLUG_Fred: congratulation! (1:41:38 PM) moquist: rewley: great! I was worried you were going to disappear to a beach chair with a tasty drink forever... (1:41:43 PM) BLUG_Fred: rewley: great.. so i take this as a yes (1:41:51 PM) rewley: OK, I think we've outstayed our welcome here - thanks everybody who came and contributed, and I look forward to seeing you ALL involved in SFD next year! (1:42:02 PM) rewley: BLUG_Fred: yep, you're now officially President (1:42:05 PM) ***moquist high-fives Prez. BLUG_Fred (1:42:17 PM) jmC8: thanks a lot rewley! :-) (1:42:24 PM) ***rewley pats BLUG_Fred on the back (1:42:26 PM) ***BLUG_Fred high-fives back (is that possible?) (1:42:29 PM) ***rejden hugs rewley (1:42:36 PM) the_it: are agendas 2 and 3 done? (1:42:48 PM) moquist: rewley: Yes. Thank you for all your work over the past 3(?) years. (1:42:48 PM) rewley: the_it: you bring up a good point, but i think we're running out of time (1:42:54 PM) ***jmC8 pats BLUG_Fred at the back (1:42:59 PM) the_it: 2. Brief reporting on SFD 2009 / 3. Any ideas for the future (1:43:19 PM) moquist: the_it: I think the brief reporting happened but perhaps got lost in the ensuing noise. (1:43:20 PM) rewley: if you would like to discuss those issues, perhaps get in touch with the new board - they may invite the public to one of their meetings to discuss strategy for next year (1:43:25 PM) BLUG_Fred: the_it: we can probably do that over the discuss list so more people participate (1:43:27 PM) quiliro: BLUG_Fred looks as a good leader.... will count on you too rewley.... (1:43:46 PM) rewley: quiliro: thanks, I hope you have fun and learn a lot while on the board (1:43:48 PM) BLUG_Fred: the_it: some people are unfortunately (and fortunately for them) sleeping now (1:43:52 PM) BLUG_Fred: thanks everyone (1:44:06 PM) rewley: and I've got to get back to work! (1:44:11 PM) the_it: good luck SFD team! (1:44:26 PM) masafumi_ohta: thanks all :) (1:44:37 PM) quiliro: rewley: thks....I count on the members of the previous bourd too ;-) (1:44:56 PM) chicao: congratulations for the elected members of the board! (1:45:05 PM) BLUG_Fred: thanks all the ones who attended ... and good luck for the newly elected board members who will discover what is attending the new meetings