1 08:15 < rewley> i shouldn't have told people the meeting was at 1215UTC - people typically show up 15 minutes late anyway!
   2 08:17 < rewley> tpfennig: did you get my email about whether the migration would be better on 3 May or 9/10 May?
   3 08:17 < tpfennig> I would say may 9/10 because I yet havent seen the server
   4 08:18 < rewley> yep, that's probably the right thing to do then. have you bugged Jeff about giving you a login?
   5 08:20 -!- rewley changed the topic of #sfd-meeting to: #sfd-meeting Next meeting: 11 May 1200UTC
   6 08:20 -!- rewley changed the topic of #sfd-meeting to: #sfd-meeting Next board meeting: 11 May 1200UTC
   7 08:20 < tpfennig> rewley: I sent him the ssh key
   8 08:21 < rewley> ok, I'll bug him in an email today
   9 08:21 < rewley> let's start the meeting, or as much of it as we can...
  10 08:22 < rewley> i am proposing to open registrations on 15 May, and to do it using last year's registration script (with minor modifications)
  11 08:22 < moquist> tpfennig: wow! I'm sorry to hear that.
  12 08:22  * moquist pats tpfennig on the back
  13 08:22 < tpfennig> moquist: can you record in irssi format ? my xchat doesnt really
  14 08:22 < tpfennig> moquist: ty. 
  15 08:23 < rewley> any issues with that? tpfennig, I'd be interested in your view of the registration script last year - did it work OK? any recommendations?
  16 08:23 < tpfennig> rewley: I think I wasnt registered for some reason last year
  17 08:23 < tpfennig> dont know what the problem was
  18 08:24 < tpfennig> What kind of script is this?
  19 08:24 < rewley> hmmm, i thought you were registered...
  20 08:24 < rewley> FYI, the plan to change the migration script to use OSM rather than Google Maps is a nice one but it just hasn't happened - perhaps after reg is up and running...?
  21 08:24 < rewley> it's a perl script running on another server... which reminds me:
  22 08:24 < tpfennig> rewley: I think I was only party - I didnt get any reply at first
  23 08:24 < tpfennig> anyway
  24 08:24 < moquist> tpfennig: yes, I should be able to save the transcript NP
  25 08:24 < rewley> tpfennig: it's not easy to import a foreign webpage into a "frame" in moin, is it?
  26 08:25 < tpfennig> moquist: the wiki can display that, see here http://softwarefreedomday.org/AdminPage/2009-04-21
  27 08:26 < tpfennig> rewley: right
  28 08:27 < tpfennig> rewley: what would the goal of that be?
  29 08:27 < rewley> ok, we'll continue doing registration on a foreign server
  30 08:27 < rewley> the registration last year was via a webpage http://cgi.softwarefreedomday.org/register.html
  31 08:28 < rewley> it would have been nice to have the reg webpage look similar to the rest of the wiki, by somehow "importing" it
  32 08:28 < rewley> but i realise that there are security issues with "importing" foreign webpages
  33 08:29 < tpfennig> I think that also might not be necessary. 
  34 08:29 < rewley> why not? what are you thinking?
  35 08:29 < tpfennig> rewley: btw. the old theme really wont work on newer moin
  36 08:30 < rewley> tpfennig: that's fine, we'll update the theme later in the year when we upgrade to 1.8.x
  37 08:30 < tpfennig> rewley: I think people will just follow a link and register. If theme is similar they might not even be confused at all
  38 08:30 < tpfennig> rewley: did we have somebody who wanted to work on the theme alone?
  39 08:30 < rewley> tpfennig: yes, people will just follow the link.
  40 08:31  * tpfennig would suggest basing next theme on newest Moin scripts and then make patches against it
  41 08:31 < rewley> no, nobody who volunteered for just the theme alone. however a few people volunteered to help with individual things like web design, which of course is closely related
  42 08:31 < tpfennig> also would suggest to have some kind of common revision controlled repository for working on files
  43 08:31  * rewley quite agrees that we start fresh with the latest themes
  44 08:32 < tpfennig> with patches it would be more easy to follow changes of themes
  45 08:32  * tpfennig hasnt seen full sources of theme yet
  46 08:32 < rewley> tpfennig: that has long been an aspiration, as has an RT system for dealing with internal and external issues - however we've not had the technical leadership to make it happen
  47 08:32 < tpfennig> rewley: do we have now? ;)
  48 08:33 < rewley> tpfennig: i must go and check on the theme sources, i'm really surprised that they're not accessible
  49 08:33 < rewley> tpfennig: we may have now... at least it's no longer just me trying to fit it in around my work :-)
  50 08:33  * rewley is not the world's greatest hacker :-/
  51 08:34 < rewley> tpfennig: what files do you think need to be in a repository?
  52 08:34  * tpfennig too (not)
  53 08:35 < tpfennig> rewley: the themes at least
  54 08:35 < tpfennig> rewley: andy maybe also moin wiki config
  55 08:35 < rewley> i'm not used to using repositories in work - i'm sure they could simplify a lot of things, and i was just wondering about what
  56 08:35 < tpfennig> yes would definitely be good
  57 08:35 < tpfennig> maybe some logo works also
  58 08:36 < tpfennig> jdub should know those too
  59 08:36 < tpfennig> I would say either we use mercurial or git
  60 08:36 < rewley> yes, jdub will make our lives easier :-)
  61 08:36 < tpfennig> mercurial is what moin uses
  62 08:36 < tpfennig> git is what gnome uses
  63 08:36 < tpfennig> both are distributed version control systems
  64 08:36 < rewley> ok, it's been 20 minutes since the scheduled start of the meeting and we're still the only ones here...
  65 08:37  * tpfennig tends to like mercurial more
  66 08:37 < rewley> i propose we call it a day and try again in ten days - but of course we will meet for the migration before then
  67 08:37 < rewley> tpfennig: are you OK with migrating on 9 May, assuming you get access this weekend?
  68 08:38 < tpfennig> rewley: I would say yes, if I have access till May 6th
  69 08:38 < tpfennig> and assuming some servers already are running then
  70 08:38 < rewley> cool, ok then, we'll shoot for 9 May
  71 08:39 < rewley> the server is already running :-?
  72 08:39 < tpfennig> OK
  73 08:39 < tpfennig> no idea
  74 08:39 < rewley> thanks for coming, sorry about the poor attendance
  75 08:39 < tpfennig> np
  76 08:39 < rewley> moquist: wanna shoot the IRC log to the mailing list? thx
  77 08:39 < tpfennig> moquist: and to new page
  78 08:39 < tpfennig> http://softwarefreedomday.org/AdminPage/2009-04-30#preview
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